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RUGAAL
11-22-2012, 05:42 PM
I've seen couple monitors which I might go for, since it's black friday and friday sales should kick in soon. Seen some BENQ 24 inch ones, with good reviews also found Asus with built in 3d device so doesn't have to spend extra to buy separate kit, but price also goes up because of that. Asus has one monitor with 144hz which is 27 inch and cost almost same as Benq 24 inch 2420t 3d 120hz monitor.

Found some low price monitors with 120hz capability, but not sure if they actually run 120hz on 2d too.

Hanns-G HS233H3B 23"LCD HDMI 3D Monitor
BenQ XL2411T 24 inch Widescreen LED Monitor

or should I stick with Benq 2420t or Asus 144hz one for best 2d 120hz experience?

Also I do want to have good colours and asus has some washed out colours on their 144hz model...


I'm mostly looking for such monitor because of fast phased games like CS1.6 / CS:GO / Natural Selection 2 / Starcraft 2. Which means I need low input lag, currently playing on 32 inch 3d TV, because gave my old rig to sister and wanted to upgrade monitor anyway.

My rig
Asus GTX 480
i5 3570k 4.2ghz
8gb vengeance 1600 ram
asrock extreme4 z77 mobo
noctua d14 cpu cooler

BlackOctagon
11-22-2012, 11:57 PM
If playing those games competitively, the best possible screen is actually a high performing CRT.

Otherwise, I hear that the BenQ you quote indeed has very low input lag. Check out the reviews on Prad.de as they do proper measured input lag tests on screens which can be quite revealing

Shekkles
11-23-2012, 12:12 AM
http://www.asus.com/Display/LCD_Monitors/VG278HE/

^ That.

RUGAAL
11-23-2012, 05:24 AM
http://www.asus.com/Display/LCD_Monitors/VG278HE/

^ That.

Hi, any pros and cons? I've seen that it has those washed colors on some youtube reviews, not sure if u can calibrate them to be spot on as it's competitors?

Also does it has black color brightness feature, which makes dark rooms lighter (games), while keeping rest of colors at same brightness?

RUGAAL
11-23-2012, 05:50 AM
http://www.asus.com/Display/LCD_Monitors/VG278HE/

^ That.


What about Asus VG278H (or HE) vs Samsung S27A950D LED , which one is better and is Samsung available for Nvidia cards or I have to have dual-dvi to display port cable?

Crackatoah
11-23-2012, 09:16 AM
I owned the Benq 2420t it was pretty good, good build quality and stand, the anti glare coating was over heavy though. It was instant and smooth but it did leave a white ghost behind the moving image against certain colours, it was minimal but enough for me to notice and annoy me a little.

The best 120hz monitor is the Samsung 23 inch one, it has the sharpest moving smooth image with no ghosting overdrive and it has a shiny screen so colours look more vibrant ( could be good or bad depending non you room, but asking as you haven't got a light behing you shining directly on it it will be fine)

Although the Samsung does have a little more input lag than the Ben, the benq has about 6ms and the Samsung has about 19ms, sound allot but its really hardly any difference, not enough to hinder competitive gaming IMO.... The internet delay will have 99℅ of the factor over a few ms of input lag.

BlackOctagon
11-23-2012, 11:07 AM
I'm pretty sure the ASUS linked above has far superior lag to the Samsung (I'm saying this as a happy Samsung owner, by the way)

Edit: What Crakatoah said!

coradux
11-23-2012, 04:07 PM
I've seen couple monitors which I might go for, since it's black friday and friday sales should kick in soon. Seen some BENQ 24 inch ones, with good reviews also found Asus with built in 3d device so doesn't have to spend extra to buy separate kit, but price also goes up because of that. Asus has one monitor with 144hz which is 27 inch and cost almost same as Benq 24 inch 2420t 3d 120hz monitor.

Found some low price monitors with 120hz capability, but not sure if they actually run 120hz on 2d too.

Hanns-G HS233H3B 23"LCD HDMI 3D Monitor
BenQ XL2411T 24 inch Widescreen LED Monitor

or should I stick with Benq 2420t or Asus 144hz one for best 2d 120hz experience?

Also I do want to have good colours and asus has some washed out colours on their 144hz model...


I'm mostly looking for such monitor because of fast phased games like CS1.6 / CS:GO / Natural Selection 2 / Starcraft 2. Which means I need low input lag, currently playing on 32 inch 3d TV, because gave my old rig to sister and wanted to upgrade monitor anyway.

My rig
Asus GTX 480
i5 3570k 4.2ghz
8gb vengeance 1600 ram
asrock extreme4 z77 mobo
noctua d14 cpu cooler
The XL2411T is 144Hz capable at 1920x1080. I know that even on Benq's web page it says 120Hz but trust me is 144Hz. I own one.

RUGAAL
11-24-2012, 03:09 AM
I don't really like Samsung cuz it needs separate cable to be available run with NVIDIA card. that cable cost like 60

Shadman
11-25-2012, 10:53 AM
I don't really like Samsung cuz it needs separate cable to be available run with NVIDIA card. that cable cost like 60

Is there more information about this?

BlackOctagon
11-25-2012, 11:16 AM
Is there more information about this?

Indeed. I had never heard of this and would like more elaboration

RUGAAL
11-26-2012, 02:03 AM
Samsung uses Display port, while benq/asus usually uses dual dvi for 120hz input. At least my nvidia card doesn't have displayport socket, so I have to buy displayport to dual-dvi cable, which costs those 50+ gbp

Shadman
11-26-2012, 02:32 AM
The only Samsung model I see on this thread is this one (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001472), but it has DVI and VGA too...I'm not sure if they would make a DisplayPort-only monitor. Are you talking about a different one?

BlackOctagon
11-26-2012, 03:00 AM
1) There ARE NVIDIA cards out there that support DisplayPort (GTX 570, 680 etc.)
2) The Samsung S27A950D discussed in this thread supports 120Hz over both DisplayPort AND DVI

RUGAAL, I think you're confusing the S27A950D with the S27A750D. The 750D is basically the same as the 950D, except that it does not have DVI.* Given that there are widespread problems reported with the DisplayPort connection on BOTH monitors, there's really no reason to get the 750D over the 950D.

*Actually there is one other difference. The 950D has a rather spacey stand that most people either love or hate. The 750D has a more traditional stand.

Finally, it's worth noting that both the 750D and 950D are on the verge of being discontinued (according to internet forum rumours, at least). It's not clear which models will supersede these monitors, but I sure hope Samsung gets its act together on the DisplayPort side of things.

BlackOctagon
11-26-2012, 03:27 AM
Oh, and incidentally, USD691 for the S27A950D is VERY expensive. Not sure if NewEgg simply got a bad deal this time, or if this is an indication of just how quickly the 950D is disappearing.

In Australia right now, you can get the same screen for AUD426 (USD445). Usually Australia is notably more expensive than the States for all IT gear. Weird.

Interestingly, the European versions of Amazon.com (Amazon.co.uk, Amazon.de, Amazon.fr) have basically no 950Ds left. You can only find some limited stock in the Amazon Marketplace through independent sellers. One seller on Amazon.fr wants a whopping EUR855 (USD1100) for the single new 950D still in stock. NO THANKS!

When my Harry Potter OC arrives, I almost wonder if I could sell my 950D second hand for a killing...

RUGAAL
11-27-2012, 02:34 AM
has anyone have any information for upcomming 120hz monitors?

also was wondering, is there around 120hz low input lag monitor with quick response time for about 250 gbp or I have to wait for boxing day sales, dont really want to spend that alot on just monitor, but I do want 120hz with great colors size 23-27.

found some older models for reasonable price, but not sure if they actually are worth it?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/BenQ-XL2411T-Widescreen-1920x1080-3D-Ready/dp/B00A2KZ2XS/ref=sr_1_13?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1354005118&sr=1-13
BenQ XL2411T 24 inch Widescreen LED Monitor 253gbp



http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hanns-HS233H3B-LCD-Widescreen-Monitor/dp/B004L5BXHY/ref=sr_1_6?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1354005118&sr=1-6
Hanns G HS233H3B 23 LCD 155gbp



http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-ET-VG5HE-009-inch-LED-Monitor/dp/B005EYC1DG/ref=sr_1_11?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1354005118&sr=1-11
Acer ET.VG5HE.009 23 inch LED Monitor 155gbp